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6 months ago, I encountered paranormal phenomena so intense, it forced me to see the world.

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This succumbed to my deepest fears.

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It was in a place charged with enough evil to leave a permanent mark on the grounds.

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There were 998 confirmed deaths in this prison.

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A place whose walls hold a secret that can no longer be contained.

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What I'm about to show you is not actually public knowledge.

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I've asked Chad Kalick, a fellow investigator and filmmaker, to document me as I return to the darkness.

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I found what I left in place. I'll never come back.

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I think something's here.

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But this time, I'm bringing my team along.

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Together, we will face our fears.

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As darkness falls.

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My name is Ryan, and I'm a paranormal investigator.

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When I was a kid, my experiences with the supernatural terrified me, and I've been searching for answers ever since.

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So when I got to Penn State, I realized I wasn't alone in my quest.

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So I founded the Paranormal Research Society, dedicated to helping those who were haunted like I was.

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We are students.

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We are seekers.

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And sometimes, we're warriors.

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And each time we help someone, I feel like I'm one step closer to finding the truth.

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This is paranormal state.

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When I was here six months ago, I felt fear.

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Every time we did an investigation, I just kept thinking,

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how can a family trust me when I can't handle my own fears?

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So I had to go back.

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I wanted you guys all to come here to experience it with me.

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And I know it changed every one of you guys.

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This place has been investigated by probably every major paranormal team in the country, if not the world.

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I won't lie, one of the main reasons why we're here is because I wanted to come back and investigate this place for my own reasons.

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When I was here with Chad, I had some intense experiences to say the least, I want to go into it,

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but I definitely believe this place has some activity.

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We're not just here to do your typical average investigation.

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Each and every one of you have gone through some intense investigations in PRS.

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However, we haven't really put the fear to the test.

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The safety net is coming down for this investigation.

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Essentially, every one of you is going to go into a place alone.

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One of the main things for West Virginia State Pentantry is when darkness falls on this place and fear picks up.

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I guarantee you, you guys are going to come back with some paranormal activity.

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Hi Paul.

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How are you doing Ryan?

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Nice to meet you. This is my PRS team.

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Pleasure.

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Thanks for meeting us. We know that you were a former warden of this place, right?

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Yes.

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I've seen most of the prison, but my team obviously haven't, so I thought maybe you could give us a tour of the place.

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So we'll just follow your lead wherever you think we should start.

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Well, let's go to North Hall. That's probably the most violent place inside the institution.

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This is the jail within the jail.

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Because these people were so dangerous, this is the reason that there were screens on the doors.

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Those were for protection of the officer so that we didn't get stabbed with a shank through the door.

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How many fatalities would you say happen in this area?

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While I worked here, I know of seven people that were murdered inside this facility here.

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This was the state's maximum security prison. It's the one that housed the worst of the worst.

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Do you have any notorious or famous prisoners that were here?

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Well, Red Snyder was the last one that was killed in this hall.

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What was he in person for?

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Red had actually killed his mother and his father.

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How did the inmates die?

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Unbeknownst to the officer staff here, Red Snyder had gotten into some pills or something and was a little bit lethargic that morning.

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So when they let him out, the other two inmates went in his cell and stabbed him to death.

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In fact, he was stabbed 38 times.

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Cheers.

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Early on, a lot of the punitive stuff that was done inside of institutions was actually carried out by staff.

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So therefore, the staff could actually lock you up in the hole.

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So you could administer your own punishment.

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So if you got locked up on a Friday and this guy was off Saturday and Sunday, he'll see you on Monday.

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This is where you stayed.

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Now, for what I understand about this place, you know, there was drug use down here.

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Rape, murders.

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Yes, and that was probably the majority of the reason it got closed because of how dangerous it was for staff to be in here.

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Okay, what you're doing, you're entering the south end stairwell to the psychiatric ward.

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This is a good area with a lot of activity between here and the next building, which is the infirmary.

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It seems like the area is in the institution that had high concentration of abnormal inmate behavior that seems to be where a lot of this activity is picked up at.

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And this is certainly one of the places.

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I came through this doorway and I got just about right into this area here is where I felt something touch me on the arm on the shoulder to stop me.

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Like just like stop me from going where I was going.

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Got the lights on so I can see better and as you can see, there's just nothing here.

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Every morning when I came into work, I came in through the end door, which is down at the very end of this car that we're on here now.

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This tear and I walked past a cell that was occupied by the name of Reg Schneider.

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And he had a real deep gravelly voice.

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And this was Red Cell, right?

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This was Red Cell. This is where he was killed.

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So I came in and I walked by here and I got to probably right here and I heard morning mag and I thought,

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oh, this can't be right because I'm the only person in this prison.

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This is a pretty safe to say that Red is still hanging out.

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Pretty safe.

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Do you remember the day he died?

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I remember hearing the call for help and I just remember when they brought the gurney down him going by and it was just very bloody and there was a stench.

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I don't know if you've ever smelled a lot of blood at one time.

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Blood has a very distinct odor and it smells like death.

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How you doing?

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Hey, Michelle.

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Were out the bat any impressions?

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I keep seeing chain link fence in my head. I don't know why.

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What are you feeling in this place?

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It seems to be a closed away sort of dark.

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The sense of closing the door, sealing it in some way and just walking away with the sense of satisfaction with this.

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That's what you get.

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That'll earn ya.

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From who?

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Somebody who had the power to lock the door.

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Are you going to go down steps?

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What are you feeling in this place?

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Violence.

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Men.

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Arguing.

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I can't get any of the faces to hold still.

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Again, all men, they're all sweaty, they're all angry at something.

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But this one guy I keep seeing again and again.

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It's like some tragedy and then there's blood on the ground or on the walls. Blood.

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As darkness creeps into West Virginia State Penitentiary, PRS is preparing for isolation in some of the most sinister corners of the prison.

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It turns into a very different place when there's no sun outside.

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If something's coming at you, if something pushes you, shoves you, and it keeps coming at you and trying to do that, where are you going to go?

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Are you freaked out, Josh?

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What do you think?

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Eventually, I alone will face the fears that pulled me back to this place.

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But tonight, members of my team will be put to the test.

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Josh will be in Red Snatter cell while Sergio lies on an X-ray table in the infirmary.

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And Heather roams the sugar shack, which has been turned into a haunted Halloween house.

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I have no doubt that the decorations will certainly add to the shack's intensity.

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You're isolated, you're alone in one of these areas. You should be more primed to have activity.

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There's three people who are going to be in tech, so we will be monitoring to a large degree.

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If we're all in this together as a team, then I know you guys are going to be fine, you're going to be safe.

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It is going to be intimidating.

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I honestly don't know what's going to happen tonight, but this is going to take Pyrrhus to a whole new level.

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So, I'm doing my dead time challenge, and I am down in the sugar shack.

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Okay, I have this little freaky, that little doll sitting there looking at me.

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This is so creepy. There's these bodies hanging. I think I have to walk through these bodies.

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Oh, man. You're f***ing kidding me, right?

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Alright, man. Dead time has commenced at 1.48 a.m. Good luck.

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Is there anybody here with me right now?

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Is there anybody that wants to talk?

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Okay, alright.

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You want me to tell Maggie anything?

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You remember Maggie, right?

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I just heard a bag.

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Okay, I'm now walking through a bunch of dummies. It's kind of weird.

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I just heard something behind me. It sounded like movement.

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Are there any former prisoners here in the sugar shack with me?

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If that was you making that noise, could you make it again?

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Okay, can anybody confirm the loud bang sound?

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Like that one again?

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And again?

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Are you kidding me?

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You want to do that again?

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Come on.

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Whoa, okay. I felt like my hair just got tugged.

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Whoa.

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What?

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I can't tell if that was my eyes or not, but I think I saw something move. Here.

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Like a shadow?

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I don't know.

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Hey HQ, can you hear me on walkie?

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Surge, not to freak you out, but I thought I saw something move in the background.

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Surge, did you copy that?

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I think something's here.

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HQ, can anybody hear me?

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Surge.

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I don't think you can get out of here.

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Surge.

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F***.

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There was one moment when things were just getting pretty bad.

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Okay, can anybody confirm the loud banging sound?

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Like that one again?

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And again?

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Are you kidding me?

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That I heard.

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Alright, what's next?

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We have pages upon pages of knocks and bangings coming from the sugar shack overnight.

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What the?

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Keeps going.

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That doesn't sound like a walking sound.

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It sounds like a hammering.

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Well, this is what's interesting about this clip is Heather, this is her recorder from her dead time.

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She never stopped the recorder.

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This was about six hours in, which would put it around 7 a.m.

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And we checked with the employees.

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Somebody's usually here around 10.

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So according to employees, there was nobody here at this time.

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We also have surveillance too for the entrance, don't we?

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I don't remember anybody coming in until like 8 a.m.

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So, what was it last night?

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It was freaky.

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Like, I won't deny that.

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You're in such a vulnerable position.

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There that you know that even if you yell or something like gets thrown at you,

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it's just gonna be a while until somebody is able to come up those stairs and get to you.

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I don't think you know where you're going today.

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No, I don't.

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I'm freaking out about it.

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I'm nervous as hell, dude.

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Because Ryan hasn't told us anything about what the hell he's experienced.

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So I don't know if we're dealing with residual energy.

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I don't know if we're just dealing with human spirits.

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Like, our team leader isn't even telling us what the hell happened to him.

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And it scared him enough to leave his challenge last time he was here.

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Today, Pauli Geer is gonna come by.

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Pauli Geer has probably one of the most famous pieces of evidence

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that's ever come out of West Virginia State Penitentiary.

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She has a photograph of what people have dubbed the Shadow Man.

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Now, a very well-known paranormal team came here

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and they essentially debunked the photograph.

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It's just an opinion.

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So we need to go and we need to analyze this photograph

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and I think we need to take it way further than anyone else has ever taken it before.

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It was just walking through this little wall with the red and white.

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Like, just like so?

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Yeah, just walk through the wall.

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And at that time I could see inside of it was like moving black static.

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And then it looked around and then it looked up at me.

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And then it jumped from here to over here behind this wall.

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Like instantaneously?

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And that's when I threw my flashlight down

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and started walking backwards, getting my camera ready.

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And I just held it up and took one shot.

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And then I ran right back down.

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There was nobody there, nothing around.

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So pretty much what you're saying, you were the only one in this hallway?

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What was going through your mind?

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I felt, well, this is something paranormal.

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And if I can, I need to get a picture of this.

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And something told me to back off or it wouldn't happen.

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Some skeptics have dismissed the entity and Pauly's photo as her own shadow.

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So we tracked down another group who attempted to recreate the photo

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by casting shadows with various lighting sources.

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We did an extensive setup there to try to figure out if we could recreate

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what had been talked about, that that was a backflash that was getting thrown on the law from Pauly.

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So you mean like the theory that when she was taking a photo, there was another source of light behind her?

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Right.

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We tried various setups and the one thing we could not recreate was the shadows

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leading from the feet, which, you know, stood up all the way to the door,

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no matter how we tried to light it.

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There is a reflection on this subject.

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How do we give a reflection on a ghost?

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How do we get a shadow from the figure?

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On the floor of a ghost.

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So from a forensics perspective, I believe what we have here is a three-dimensional person that was photographed.

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You're just saying this has physical mass to it?

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This has physical mass in our opinion.

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And there's nothing in the photograph that would lead you to believe that it was like Photoshop

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or manipulated in there or placed in there?

254
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No.

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Okay.

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From a forensic perspective, we have a three-dimensional perspective.

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Okay.

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From a forensic perspective, we can't see that it was manipulated.

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Is it possible to forensically conclude something as a ghost?

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No.

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He's not necessarily debunking the photograph.

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What he can definitely say is it has physical mass

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and that there is some sort of light reflection off of this person, this thing, this apparition.

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As I said to him, can you ever forensically prove something as a ghost?

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No.

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So what is it to him?

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It's a person.

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A forensic scientist will never tell you a ghost

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because they're not going to touch a supernatural.

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So what's interesting to me about it, he believes something's actually there.

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Evidence of a shadow figure adds to the credibility of everyone's experiences, including my own.

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I've decided that it's time to take my team to the place where I had my personal encounter,

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the one that shook me to the core.

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The Wardens Tower is actually up here.

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I was invited here with Chad about six months ago

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and they do not allow people up here, but for whatever reason,

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they allowed for myself to come up here and do a private investigation.

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I was here alone.

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Just so you guys know too, people have claimed to have heard and seen a woman up here.

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Now, one of the things I experienced when I was up here was a woman laughing at me very clearly.

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When there was nobody up here at all.

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Did you have anything else happen?

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Yeah.

284
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No laughing.

285
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Dude, we're not laughing at you.

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I didn't say that, but if you're going to start giggling and stuff, then just stay down here.

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You have to appreciate the intensity of what we're dealing with.

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I feel like you guys haven't, after all these years, maybe you guys just don't understand what it is that we're dealing with sometimes.

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When I see everyone laughing and giggling and being loud and stupid, it just, it annoys the f*** out of me.

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Would you guys do this if a client was about to show you a place that's the most dangerous or the most frightening?

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I mean, to be honest with you, that's part of the reason is we don't know it's the full scope.

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And it feels like we're left in the dark at times and that gets frustrating on our end.

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All of us in the team and myself included, all we really know is that he heard a woman, you know, sort of giggling, a woman laughing,

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but we don't really know how it affected him, you know, and he, it sucks that he wants us to take this seriously, but he's not opening up.

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And honestly, I mean, the only thing I can think of is that there's some relation between this and what he may have experienced as a child.

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Do you think if you articulated better in detail to them what happened, that it would have an effect on them or they would take it more seriously?

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I don't feel like it's my job to sit here and spell things out when it comes to me. I don't feel comfortable doing that.

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Because of my team's lack of professionalism at a time like this, I've decided not to share this prison's darkest secret.

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Instead, I'm going to send the other half of my team into solitude. Let's see if they're still laughing afterwards.

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I don't like walking down the hallway, I'll be honest. But I've been on many, many investigations and let me tell you something.

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When you get those feelings, I'd say 80% of the time it's usually for a damn good reason.

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Help, darlin', I really think you should lose the flashlight.

303
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I don't know if you're uncomfortable right now.

304
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Alright, Elf, we'll give you a couple more minutes, but we do need you to really try. Over.

305
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It's what you get locked up in here for anyway. Why are you still here?

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Is anyone here?

307
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You know, you're so powerful in life. You did something horrendous enough to wind up here. How come you can't do it in death?

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First light battle from the cage by dangerousness for wind.

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I keep trying to provoke, maybe you never know, maybe it's not the wind.

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Okay, I'm done with you. Can you rattle the cage again?

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Can you knock on something? Can you bang on something?

312
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Guys, who's walking up steps right now?

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There shouldn't be anyone.

314
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No one is walking up steps, Katrina.

315
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Are you f***ing kidding me? Okay.

316
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I'm hearing somebody walking up a set of steps right now.

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Alright, was that you?

318
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Who just walking up a flight of steps?

319
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Okay, alright, who's walking up steps right now?

320
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No, we don't have, we don't see anybody on the camera walking at all.

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F***.

322
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So, at 44.56, Katrina says she hears footsteps.

323
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Guys, who's walking up steps right now?

324
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Wait, let's hear that again.

325
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Guys, who's walking up steps right now?

326
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Did you guys hear it?

327
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,000
Yeah, I heard it. What's next?

328
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Other stuff that happened. Elfie, the last 15 minutes of her teeth, she gets something.

329
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Who?

330
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Do you hear it?

331
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,000
Okay, did you guys hear it?

332
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Yes.

333
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Okay, very low whisper. I have no idea what it says. I can't make it out.

334
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Now this lasts for 15 minutes with Elfie, consistently. At other times it's louder.

335
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Actually, it does get a lot louder and it sounds different.

336
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It does. Towards the end it sounds more distinct, more heavy.

337
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What do you think it's, what is it?

338
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We don't know.

339
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Another factor in the investigation is this prison's proximity to a massive burial ground

340
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built by the Idina Indian tribe in the 1700s.

341
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This is the most important aspect of Idina culture.

342
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They were the first mountain builders that we know of in North America.

343
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The main reason for building a mountain was to bury their dead.

344
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And this has been desecrated in an amazing way.

345
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Like how?

346
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The very first European settlers that were in this area, they were looking for gold.

347
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They were looking for treasure.

348
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And they actually found the graves of the people that were there.

349
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And when they found these, they were encased in big logs.

350
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Now you know that whoever took the time and the effort to encase a dead person

351
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really meant for that person to continue resting in peace forever.

352
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Let me ask you a question.

353
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Spiritually speaking, is there some sort of like vengeance attached with that?

354
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Like a stigma of vengeance to the spirits that they believe to hang around?

355
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There are consequences when you disturb these entities

356
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and you put something like this here where the people that are considered

357
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the worst of the worst, the people that carry the most negativity

358
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are all contained within those forbidden walls.

359
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What a catalyst.

360
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What a terrible catalyst for bad things to happen.

361
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The Indian burial mound across the street, do you think that has any connection?

362
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With the activity that's going on in the prison?

363
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I don't know.

364
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I mean, we're just a few hundred feet from them.

365
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It could be.

366
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My true belief on the energy in the prison is that inmates believed if they died

367
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while incarcerated in a prison that their spirit remained there.

368
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What do you think is here?

369
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There were 998 confirmed deaths in this prison.

370
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Some of those souls, I'm sure, had no place to go.

371
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Who would want them?

372
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God probably wouldn't want them.

373
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And the devil would be afraid to give up his throne to some of these guys.

374
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I mean, that's how heinous they were.

375
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So maybe this was a safe haven for them.

376
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What about occult practices?

377
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We had one inmate, John Burton, who used to call on the devil.

378
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So where did you practice the Satanism?

379
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I was in this cell and I realized how to make a pentagram.

380
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I made it right there as you're standing and it laid right there.

381
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And on the ceiling I took a sheet and drew a picture of Satan's face on it.

382
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What I thought was Satan, I'd just lay there and watch as the wind blew and the air moved and the sheet would move.

383
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And just anything I could do or make demonic.

384
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But I'll tell you this one thing that did happen to me.

385
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What happened to me when I got involved in Satanism?

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I become so violent.

387
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And as I was worshiping Satan and saying that I'll do your bidding and all this,

388
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I would dream about how I could attack a guard and cut his head off and use it for a bowling ball and how I could gut him.

389
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I mean, I just got so violent and I just was just wild and just full of viciousness, which I never was like that.

390
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,000
I mean, I had a crime of robbery but I wasn't vicious and never really hurt anybody.

391
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I turned into something I wasn't.

392
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And I was affected in this cell by what I know I was involved in.

393
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And it is real.

394
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,000
If there's a God in heaven, there's a devil.

395
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And he certainly visited me here and not only me but other people.

396
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,000
All right, Alfie, tell us about your historical research.

397
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I actually was able to find the form that you fill out when you want to make a building a historic landmark.

398
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The form describes everything in the structure and what it all is and what it was built.

399
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:18,000
The only interesting thing I did find was with the towers on this side of the building.

400
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They did mention a star and the weird thing was that's only actual structural description.

401
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Kind of star.

402
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:36,000
Well, I guess I can finally take you guys into the Warren's Tower because I think Alfie, I can answer your question about what that actually refers to.

403
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:44,000
What I'm about to show you is not actually public knowledge.

404
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,000
I was worshiping Satan.

405
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,000
It is real.

406
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,000
Call on the devil.

407
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,000
And he certainly visited me here.

408
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,000
What I'm about to show you is not actually public knowledge.

409
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,000
What you're looking at is an inverted pentagram.

410
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:21,000
As you can see up here, the same kind of cardboard was placed over it later.

411
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So at some time this was covered up.

412
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,000
So this was actually sealed up.

413
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:33,000
Yeah. Now I only know a few cultures and religious belief systems that use the inverted pentagram.

414
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The most prominent is devil worship.

415
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:56,000
It's not every day you see something like this in an architectural element built into a large, well-established public building.

416
00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:02,000
Generally, if somebody is using that as a satanic symbol, they're doing it in a subversive way.

417
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:09,000
That level of subversive behavior is not the sort of thing you would expect somebody to stick in the middle of a picture window.

418
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They wouldn't have the authority.

419
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,000
They wouldn't have the permission.

420
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:18,000
I mean, these are people who had to have been involved in building this actual prison.

421
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,000
Any discoveries?

422
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:26,000
The only thing that I came up with, which is kind of interesting, is a...

423
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Oh, a picture.

424
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That's right outside.

425
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,000
It's right on the outside above the entrance.

426
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And this is pretty much the entrance.

427
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,000
Right on the outside above the entrance.

428
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:48,000
And this is probably what Elfie's Historical Research was talking about with that star.

429
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,000
Like star on third floor.

430
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,000
This is probably it.

431
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,000
Interesting.

432
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,000
Yeah. So it doesn't...

433
00:32:55,000 --> 00:33:04,000
I mean, the way it looks, there's no reference to that inverted pentagram, pentacle, whatever you want to call it.

434
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,000
Yeah.

435
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,000
At all.

436
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,000
Do you know how long this was boarded up?

437
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,000
Well, I was here in 75 and I never saw it.

438
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,000
My staff is the one that actually found this.

439
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:21,000
They come up here and I think a piece of it had gotten wet or fallen off and they pulled it down and that's when they actually discovered it.

440
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That was in the 80s.

441
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,000
When it was uncovered, there wasn't much said.

442
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,000
Nobody did anything.

443
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,000
And I said, oh, well, there's a pentagram up there.

444
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,000
Okay, well, my question was how did it get there?

445
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,000
Since then, we've asked for the history of it.

446
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,000
It's very vague right now.

447
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,000
We don't know of anybody that can give us the history on that.

448
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:54,000
Obviously, there's some new age beliefs that use the pentagram, but most practices that use the inverted pentagram are known as Satanists or devil worshipers.

449
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,000
So, I mean, have you ever heard of anybody here?

450
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,000
When you say anybody, now, I...

451
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,000
This would have to be related to staff.

452
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,000
I mean, an inmate didn't put this here.

453
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,000
This has to be related to staff.

454
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,000
That's how this thing had to get here.

455
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,000
Design, purpose, you know, to get the way that it's set up.

456
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We have talked to several family members of wardens that lived here and the family members lived here.

457
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:23,000
None of them to this point have been able to tell us that they saw this here.

458
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,000
Really?

459
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,000
Yeah.

460
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:32,000
If part of this prison was constructed by devil worshipers, then that could be what's keeping the dark spirits locked inside.

461
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:39,000
Or the pentagram could simply be a symbol of true evil that took place in the Warrens Tower.

462
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For tonight's dead time, this is where I'm going to be.

463
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:49,000
I'm going to be here by myself because last time I was unable to stay here the entire duration.

464
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:54,000
What you guys all went through and being alone and isolated for an hour is what I was supposed to do.

465
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:59,000
But the activity was so intense and saying that I had to leave.

466
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What's up?

467
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:06,000
Well, dude, I mean, I guess I'm a little concerned with you going up there because it seems like we got a tail end of the story.

468
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,000
Like you heard a woman's laughter up there the last time we were here.

469
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Did anything else happen up there?

470
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,000
Jesus.

471
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:20,000
You know, I don't want to get into it anymore, but I just...

472
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,000
I just need to go and finish what I'm doing.

473
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,000
And what's that?

474
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,000
I need to go and do and say a few things.

475
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,000
It's just, it's really important for me.

476
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:41,000
You know a little bit about what I experienced in my life, especially when I was a kid.

477
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:48,000
I have way more apprehension to go up into that tower than a normal person would.

478
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,000
Yeah.

479
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,000
Right.

480
00:35:55,000 --> 00:36:01,000
With my team behind me, I'm preparing for my night of isolation.

481
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:06,000
I will be completely alone in the Wardens Tower without any camera operators.

482
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:11,000
But I'll be rigged with several cameras to capture any activity I may encounter.

483
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:15,000
I know we didn't have time to talk and I actually wanted to talk to you more at length.

484
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:21,000
The reason why I brought you here and the reason why I came here is that there's some things I wanted to confront and deal with.

485
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,000
Sure.

486
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,000
So...

487
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,000
Can I...

488
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,000
I'll night you.

489
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,000
So, so...

490
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,000
Thanks for the night.

491
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,000
Bye, man.

492
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,000
Knockin' dead.

493
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,000
I'm gonna go to the hospital.

494
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,000
Thanks for the night.

495
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,000
Bye, man.

496
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,000
Knockin' dead.

497
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,000
Okay.

498
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,000
Here I go.

499
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:59,000
Guys, is there any woman down near you guys giggling?

500
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,000
Ryan, negative.

501
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,000
There is nobody giggling or talking.

502
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:14,000
Ryan, I'm gonna give you one more time to answer, dude, and I'm coming up there. Are you okay?

503
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,000
Oh, what the fuck?

504
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,000
Alright, I'm not gonna go to the pentagram yet.

505
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:46,000
I'm speaking to whatever force is here in the Wardens Tower.

506
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,000
Come into this room and communicate with me.

507
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,000
Last time I was here, I heard someone woman giggling at me.

508
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,000
Are you here with me now?

509
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,000
Boom.

510
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,000
What the fuck?

511
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,000
Thing is rocking.

512
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,000
Oh, guys.

513
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,000
I just heard humming towards the pentagram.

514
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,000
I came here to tell you something.

515
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,000
I want you to listen.

516
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:13,000
I gave you 45 minutes of my life for you to give me a sign of your presence.

517
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,000
Now I want you to listen.

518
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,000
I am not afraid of you.

519
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:25,000
I brought my team here, and we all stood up to you.

520
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:29,000
Whoever you are, whatever you are, we stood up to you.

521
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,000
We stood up to you.

522
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,000
I found when I left this place, I would never come back.

523
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,000
That I would not be able to do it.

524
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,000
I had nightmares about this place.

525
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,000
I had nightmares about this place for months.

526
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:49,000
Because there reminded me of where it was like when I was a kid.

527
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,000
I'm gonna move on.

528
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,000
I'm gonna keep on fighting.

529
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,000
No matter what it takes.

530
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,000
Because I know I'm doing it for some good.

531
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,000
I'm gonna keep on fighting.

532
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:29,000
I just wanted to hear your guys' initial thoughts on this entire investigation.

533
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:34,000
My challenge itself, let's face it, I was blind and deaf to the world

534
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,000
and effectively cut off from you guys.

535
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:43,000
You did actually get a reaction out of me, which is something for me.

536
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,000
Elfie.

537
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,000
I definitely noticed the difference during the daylight hours.

538
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,000
It does take on a whole different character altogether.

539
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:56,000
Being down in the hole and having the flashlight off and trying to ask questions.

540
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,000
It was freaky for me.

541
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,000
I definitely agree that at night this place is completely different.

542
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,000
That we become so desensitized when we work with clients.

543
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:09,000
And being here brings back all of those fears of footsteps.

544
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,000
Oh my god, look, get me out of here.

545
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,000
It brings back so many fears that I think we've lost along the way

546
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,000
because we have to to make somebody else feel better.

547
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:23,000
As for writing the wrongs that prime these grounds for a paranormal phenomena,

548
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,000
we can begin with symbolic gestures of our own.

549
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,000
An offering of tobacco to honor the Native Americans

550
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:34,000
whose burial mounds were desecrated more than a century ago.

551
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:39,000
I offer this to my ancestors and to the souls of the departed.

552
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,000
The crimes committed against you.

553
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:48,000
Dealing with the pentagram that's left a mysterious yet indelible mark on the prison's history.

554
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:54,000
I can only think of one main reason why this is here, which is devil worship.

555
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:59,000
My opinion would be if you ever open this place up, it should be removed.

556
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,000
Yes.

557
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,000
In the name of Jesus Christ, this symbol which once symbolized

558
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,000
to conquer the victory of evil over this place.

559
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:13,000
I now render you invalid by the triple sign of the Holy Cross.

560
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,000
I cover you with the precious blood of Jesus.

561
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:22,000
And a blessing for the tortured souls imprisoned here for all eternity.

562
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:27,000
Almighty God, we ask that you send your blank of the peace upon this place.

563
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:33,000
In every room, on every part of the grounds, to reverse any wrong,

564
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:39,000
to reverse the pain, to reverse the killings, to reverse the acts of anger and hatred

565
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,000
from this penitentiary.

566
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:45,000
We ask this through Christ our Lord, amen.

567
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:52,000
Maybe with a little faith and healing, a place that once knew only darkness

568
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,000
will finally see some light.

569
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:02,000
When I was here six months ago, I was still that little kid, you know, that was scared.

570
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,000
I felt fear.

571
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:09,000
So I had to go back and then I had to say some things.

572
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:15,000
It's not over for me, but I definitely closed a door.

573
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:22,000
I wanted you guys all to come here to experience it with me, to feel that fear and isolation.

574
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,000
And all of you did it, and I know it changed every one of you guys.

575
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:32,000
And for me, towards the end of me being up there, I felt a heavy weight off my shoulders.

576
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,000
And I feel fear anymore.